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can’t upgrade ca-certificates-utils error: failed to commit transaction

error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
ca-certificates-utils: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt exists in filesystem
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.
sudo pacman -Syu --ignore ca-certificates-utils
sudo rm /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
sudo pacman -S ca-certificates-utils

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